Re: Mac OS X browser view source

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From: Paul Mison
Subject: Re: Mac OS X browser view source
Date: 11:06 on 24 Aug 2003
On 23/08/2003 at 11:31 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote:
>>  I love my Mac for editing web sites. I can easily view source in my
>>  favourite text editor, and steal or modify bits of HTML, CSS and
>>  Javascript. If I'm running Mac OS 9, that is.
>
>You've forgotten how to use cut-and-paste?

Command E to view source in external editor.

Command option V to view source, command A to select all, command C 
to copy, command tab until the editor is frontmost, command shift N 
for New Window with Selection (or command N, command V if you have an 
inferior editor, perhaps).

Hmm, which of those is quicker and easier?

Oh, and to bring up a purely pedantic, irrelevant point, given you 
like a read-only browser view source, surely that's *copy* and paste?

>The only browser I use that brings up an external editor, which 90% of
>the time is just another program to chew up memory, is Opera on
>Windows.

So just as I hate the browsers mentioned for not giving me an option 
to view in external editors, you should hate Opera for not giving you 
the option not to.

Preferences are wonderful things, sometimes.

>Why bring up an editor on a document that I can't modify, or save it
>to some worthless randomly-named file I can't keep track of.

Funnily enough, good external editor implementations give fairly 
meaningful names, at least to my eyes.

>The "View Source" browser lets me do everything I need, without losing
>track of the fact that I *am* only looking at a snapshot and make
>changes to the wrong document.

Usually I can keep that straight in my mind. If not, I'll try to 
preview one or the other document and realise my mistake. No big 
problem.

>>  Point is, though, that it's really unnatural to switch to the editor
>>  to view source;
>
>That's what I think. I'm not editing, I'm browsing.

Often I am just browsing. When I'm editing, though, I don't want the 
browser to stand in my way.

>If you want to open in an editor, use Mozilla. Select "File -> Edit
>Page" and it'll toss you into Composer which is one of the better HTML
>editors I've ever used.

Sadly, I hate Mozilla, as it's a bloated pile of crap that takes 
something like three weeks to load. Oh, and I quite like plain text 
editors for HTML, rather than 'WYSIWYG' abortions. Last time I 
looked, Composer is one of those.

While I'm on the subject of alternative browsers, for the people who 
suggested iCab, thanks, but I hate a browser that can't handle 
CSS-based layouts. It makes quite a lot of the pages on the web look 
like utter crap. Maybe version 3, eh?

>Then stick with OS 9.

Sadly, I do like Mac OS X for its range of browsers, better iTunes 
(isn't it sad how this is one of the main reasons I like the OS?) and 
slightly longer uptimes. Isn't life a bitch sometimes?

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