a little list pedantry, was Re: Perl

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From: mjinks
Subject: a little list pedantry, was Re: Perl
Date: 17:37 on 16 Sep 2003
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 09:38:52AM -0500, sabrina downard wrote:
> 
> Less discussion!  More hate!

Indeed.

Friends:

While I had no hand in founding this august forum nor in crafting the
hated software which makes it go, it has always been my impression that
we are here to hate software.  We are not here to debate its merits
("merits"?), nor to cure its warts ("cure"?), nor to provide any sort of
Useful Information at all.

Hate, like love, is often blind, deaf, unreasonable, totally random in
its motivations and its actions.  If I were to say that I love my wife
because she makes me donuts fried in lard, ties me up and shoves safety
pins through my nipples, and last week she drowned that screaming monster
of a child of ours, you might be justified in thinking that I make poor
dietary decisions or that I am a murderous pervert, but that does not
mean that you could question my love for my wife.

Likewise, if I hates foo(1) for doing exactly what the manpage says it
will do, well, so what?  I hates it.  You don't have to hates it.  You
certainly don't have to stands up, slaps me on the back and shout "Atta
boy!" in response to me hating it.  And above all, please, if you must
defend that narsty quivering gangrenous mound of sludge that is foo(1),
just please don't do it here.

Eventually, I intend to do some vigorous Mailman hating here, in spite
of the fact that I barely know the awful, cantankerous, wretched, filthy
thing.  I know nothing about its internals, can't program a line of
Python to save my life, and have little experience in hating other
mailing list software.  But when I come here to hate it, I do not want
somebody to pop up and tell me that they worked on Mailman, that the
obvious design shortfalls that I decry were in fact well-reasoned, and
that I should just learn a little more and all my hate will go away.
Even if it's true, it's not what I came here for.  If I want that, I'll
go hate Mailman on the Mailman users' mailing list.  I'm certain that I
would not be the first.  Piece of shit.

So please, in the name of decency and charity.  Less discussion.  More
hate.  We owe it to one another, and we owe it to the software.  Oh boy
do we owe it to the software.

-- 
Michael Jinks, ENSA, NSIT, University of Chicago
"I have seen the future, and it makes no sense."
There's stuff above here

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