Re: Evolution is a step backwards

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From: Luke A. Kanies
Subject: Re: Evolution is a step backwards
Date: 00:01 on 04 May 2004
On Mon, 3 May 2004, Matthew Garrett wrote:

> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 04:35:39PM -0500, Luke A. Kanies wrote:
>
> > Calendaring just plain falls down on functionality.  Apparently.  The two
> > features I need are some kind calendar syncronizing capability and the
> > ability to email meeting notices so I can send them to my phone.  There is
> > a calander syncronizing protocol (ical) but Evolution only supports it via
> > email, not via an automated mechanism like WebDAV (like Apple's stupidly
> > named iCal), so I can't easily synchronize between my Mac and my linux
> > box.  That part sucks.
>
> Yeah. There's movement towards supporting that, but it'll probably be
> the 2.1 timeframe.

Hmm.  I have no idea when that is, but it seems like a ways away.

> > But Evolution also can't email notices.  Or can it?  It's there as an
> > option, but it's greyed out.  Why?  I've no idea; why add it but not make
> > it available?  I can't figure it out, but apparently it's fixed in 1.5,
> > which (of course) debian doesn't have.  So apparently I could do what I
> > want, except I can't for some reason.
>
> Mailing notices certainly used to work, and I'd be surprised if it's
> entirely broken in 1.4 since that's one of their selling points. 1.5 is
> in Debian if you add an experimental sources line.

It's not broken, it's just greyed out, which means that it's effectively
missing.  I've heard it's available in 1.5, but...

> > Even better, though, is how email functionality falls on its face.
> > Actually, it might not; I don't know.  Every time I try to send an email,
> > I type something into the "To:" header box, and it pops up with a list of
> > potential matches.  I have found nothing other than 'pkill -9 evolution'
> > that can get rid of that box.  I select the email I want and hit return,
> > or double click, or triple click, or dance, or whatever the hell I
> > want, and nothing at all happens.  Even better, this is (somehow) a
> > globally modal dialig (you know, like Mozilla always does that pisses you
> > off so much?), which means that until it goes away I can't focus on any
> > other windows.
>
> If you have accessibility functionality switched on, switch it off.
> Evolution sucks in that respect in quite terrifying ways. Also bear in
> mind that the only way you're likely to be running that version of
> Evolution is in Debian unstable, which means there's a high probability
> that any breakage isn't Evolution's fault.

I don't have it switched on; what I have is a directory server available
which Evolution can search through.  I've now successfully sent an email
with that attempt at autocomplete, but I'm only 1/4, so I removed the
directory server as an autocomplete folder; hopefully that will fix the
problem.  Ugh.

> > Anyone got any linux calendaring recommendations?
>
> Yeah. A combination of anything that uses flat text files and cvs.

I don't think that's going to happen.  I might as well go back to using my
Palm for everything, even though it's basically extra work, just because
it's such a PITA to use the machines separately.  Again, ugh.

-- 
"DOS is the _only_ operating system -- and I'm using that term
loosely -- which [exhibits this behavior]."
                -- Aeleen Frisch, "Essential System Administration"
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