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On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: > Ah, the lovely land of illogical ID requirements. > > When I went to get my passport a number of years ago, I didn't > have a Driver's License, but I did have a state ID card. That > wasn't good enough. I had to have a friend come in with me, > present *his* Driver's License and take an oath that he had known > me for more than some number of years. [...] ...to be fair, it isn't just the Americans. In the Netherlands if you've never been married you can get an official document to this effect. In the US it is different; you only have a document if you have married. When I needed this document, I had to produce the legal substitute. This meant going to the American embassy in Amsterdam, where I showed my ID and signed a form wherein I made the claim that I wasn't married. Someone else signed as well, witnessing that she had watched me sign the paper. Of course she couldn't verify that what I said was true, because she had no way to know that. Then I had to take the paper to Den Haag to a Dutch ministry that attached a document verifying that the person from the embassy who had witnessed my signing was someone known to the Dutch government and authorised to witness the event. It would be funny if it hadn't taken me 8 hours and cost me over 25 bucks in fees.There's stuff above here
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