Re: beachball

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From: Luke A. Kanies
Subject: Re: beachball
Date: 10:35 on 28 Apr 2005
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Peter da Silva wrote:

> And I tried that, just to see, and decided that Apple would need to make
> some significant user interface changes to make that style workable. Or
> someone would need to do some pretty amazing hacks. Maybe Codetek has done
> that by now, but FFM plus raise-on-focus plus a detached menu bar and panels
> that disappear when you lose focus... no... I don't think so.

BeOS had full support for FFM in the GUI, and it was pretty interesting 
watching the development of GUI FFM over time.  It got to the point where 
it seldom confused me or pissed me off, I think...

I use quite a few popup tools on my mac, like Quicksilver and 
BluePhoneElite, and none of those work with Codetek's FFM, because the 
windows never have true focus (apparently) and thus appear briefly, 
realize they don't have focus, and disappear immediately.

> X11 and Terminal are kind of special cases, and having point-to-focus just
> for them is kind of OK, but I still found it disconcerting to have some
> apps tracking the mouse and some not.

Yeah, it definitely needs to be throughout the whole system, and I'm 
convinced it needs full support throughout the OS to not be confusing as 
all hell.  Autoraise is evil, just for the record.

-- 
Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself.
-- A. H. Weiler
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