Re: and on the topic of firefox biting shiny metal asses

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From: Eli Naeher
Subject: Re: and on the topic of firefox biting shiny metal asses
Date: 04:53 on 21 Jun 2006
So much Firefox hate I don't know where to start.

Actually, yes, I do. With the input focus, which is broken in
different ways on every single copy of Firefox for Linux that I've
used. The precise strain of breakage varies from version to version,
and also, apparently, with the phase of the moon and whether you
feeling lucky. So when Firefox suddenly decides not to let you get
focus on anything, you've got to try to remember: is this the box
where I can just move focus to another window and back to fix it? Or
is this the one where I've got to type adsfasdf in the address bar and
then click on the page body? Or the one where I've got to hit escape
after typing ' or / in a text box because Firefox has decided that
means it should open a "Find Text As You Type" box, input focus be
damned? Or maybe the one where I've got to sacrifice a virgin and
chant the GPL in its entirety, backwords, in Basque?

On my machine at work, Firefox is unusable because it becomes
impossible to gain focus anywhere in the application -- on the page,
in the address bar, on a menu -- if I open more than one window. Close
all but one and it starts working again. I could use tabs, but I hate
tabs, because they steal vertical space and I've already got enough
crap cluttering up the top of my browser window, and anyway I run a
civili^H^H^H^H^H^H marginally-less-hateful-than-average window manager
which makes application-level tabs redundant. So I can't use Firefox
for anything except viewing one site at a time in one window.

So I use Epiphany. Being built on top of Gecko, it too is possessed of
demented focus issues, but at least it seems to be able to fairly
reliably snap out of it when I enter text in the address bar. And so
all was well, until last week, when it started giving me "DCOM gurgle
CORBA wheeze Can't open socket moan" errors on load, and then
proceeding to start without the menu, toolbar, or address bar. (Ctrl-L
will make it appear, ephemerally, until I enter a URL, at which point
it goes away again). I also, since last week, have to click through
three or four modal Gnome "Can't open socket" error dialogs if I hit
Ctrl+F to open a search box. [1] I have vague memories of being able
to fix a similar problem in the past, by killing gconfd-2 -- or was it
gconfd-1? isn't it grand to live in an era where the importance of
using informative names for things is so universally recognized? -- or
possibly by removing some files and/or sockets buried somewhere under
/tmp, or maybe some combination of the above -- but dammit, I don't
want to have to know that much about Gnome, I just want a goddamned
browser that works.

1. Epiphany, I believe, is the "minimal" Gnome browser [2], forked by
parties who felt that Galeon was too bloated.  "Minimal," to me, seems
at odds with "has to open a new socket to render a Find In Page
dialog," but what do I know.

2. Remeber when Firefox was Phoenix? And it was supposed to be the
"minimal" version of Mozilla? Which was the supposed to be a
stripped-down interface to Netscape Communicator's rendering engine?
Does "minimal" now mean "does not require liquid coolant to run?"

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