Re: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox

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From: jrodman
Subject: Re: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox
Date: 21:13 on 19 Oct 2006
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:47:53AM -0700, Timothy Knox wrote:
> Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 02:41:04PM -0400, Dan Noe wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:34:32AM -0700, Timothy Knox wrote:
> > > But, you hateful little pile of &$#^@&, why in the name of all
> > > that is wonderful won't you give me the option to say, "No! I
> > > never *ever* under any circumstances wish to allow <this
> > > particular website> to open a popup." You don't need to warn me
> > > about it, just fscking *ignore* the popup. Silently. It's okay.
> > > You won't hurt my feelings. Really! JUST DO IT!
> > 
> > It is sometimes nice to know that the website would have opened a
> > popup and have the immediate option to show that popup.  I find the
> > yellow bar quite useful for this purpose.  If you don't like the
> > yellow bar, you can disable it easily from the "Options" button.
> > 
> > If you disable the yellow bar, it will show a small unobtrusive icon in
> > the lower right hand corner when a popup is blocked.  This allows the
> > same options when clicked, but is not as "in your face" as the yellow
> > bar.
> 
> I know, and that is one possibility. But my real bitch is that while
> there is an option to "Always allow" a website to open a popup, there
> is NOT one to "Always deny." Some websites I don't ever wish to permit
> to open popups, because they are only advertisements. All I want is an
> ability to tell a given website to take its popups and pop them up
> where the sun doesn't shine. ;-)

Not that this excuses firefox in the least, but I've been using privoxy
with firefox successfully for a few years essentially 0 unwanted popups
(and zero unwanted "did you want this popup?" gui things).

On the downside, this setup leads to some retarded websites that don't
work to a lack of popups.  Not any websites that open new windows, most
of them work fine.  Just the dumbest ones who mimic advertising
techniques to get them open without your consent.

Another approach is to just install Adblock Plus, since those
advertising popups are probably being pulled into from some offsite
iframe or javascript url which you can wipe out.

Blacklists are kind of a bother to deal with, it's true.  I blame the
whole idea of putting an arbitrary programming language in place that
is sent by a possibly hostile party and gets to control the user
interface of your software.  

Create new window.  Stupid, but I can see the rationale.  Create new
window without the normal url bar?  Whaat?  Without _Menus_?  Without
*scrollbars*, regardless of whether the content _fits_!?  What kind of
drug induces these kinds of thought patterns.  Scotch guard?

-josh
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