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* On 2004.06.10, in <80158756-BACD-11D8-A851-000393AF450E@xxxxxxx.xxx>, * "John Sinteur" <john@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Thank heavens for mail servers that have loop detection. I've seen > servers go "you authenticate" "no, YOU authenticate" to each other > until they got the kill -9... I truly loathe systems that require my to demonstrate my humanity before my mail will be released from quarantine. Especially if it's in reply to their inquiry, but really in any case. For fun, I write procmail rules to simulate such systems, and I make an effort to create mail loops whenever I get such crud. ("I have an extremely wide pipe. Do you, dipstick?") Also, when I get such challenges from someone who thinks I've sent them this or that forged spam or virus, I assure them straightaway that I did indeed. This is the only time I respond properly to verification systems. > I always make it a point to send a polite phrased message to the mail > admins, telling them in friendly terms what I'm going to repleat in > plain words here: they look like incompetent dorks and total fuckwits > for having selected said piece of shit. And I urge them to complain This is when it's useful to postmaster for 25,000 accounts, some of whom are Very Important. I explain politely to these admins that their AV software is really only intensifying the problem, and could they please disable that option. Sometimes they respond, "oh, thanks, I didn't realize". When they don't respond at all, I offer them relief by rejecting mail from their domains to mine. The AV companies don't care about my opinion, but sufficient public backlash against their actual customers might reflect some concern. -- -D. dgc@xxxxxxxx.xxx NSIT::ENSSThere's stuff above here
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