Re: Phone numbers and form fields

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From: Michael G Schwern
Subject: Re: Phone numbers and form fields
Date: 02:54 on 09 Mar 2005
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 01:53:28AM +0000, Simon Batistoni wrote:
> Having said that, I didn't have trouble using my passport once in the
> month before I got my CA drivers' licence. But then, those
> establishments *chose* to accept my ID (perhaps on the basis that I
> really don't look *that* young).

Speaking of illogical, the rules in many states are that you must check ids
of people who *look* under the age of 2x.  I'm not sure what the legal
definition is for looking a certain age.


> And, in passing, US beer isn't actually as bad as its reputation. In a
> weird piece of serendipity, I wrote this last night, before I read
> this thread... :
> http://hitherto.net/5371/archives/2005/03/why_busch_is_ba_1.html

There's actually quite an abundance of most excellent beers here in the states.
Sitting as I am in Portland "American beer mecca", Oregon where you can get
a pint of something lovely at any local *coffeehouse* I'm constantly reminded
of how good American beer can be.  Particularly when they're trying their
hands at foreign types.  Take New Belgium Brewery [1] for example.  Their
standard beer, Fat Tire, is a toasty amber ale.  1554 is a smooth black ale
going back to, well, 1554.  I can pick up a 6-pack of New Belgium beers for
$7 at any local supermarket.  Then there's Rogue [1] who wins so many medals
every year they could start a mint.  Shakespeare Stout is, dare I say it,
better than Guiness.  And for the not feint of pallette, Stone Brewing's
Arrogant Bastard Ale which is basically strong barleywine.

Trouble is the average American beer is so much pisswater.  Pilsners designed
to be produced and consumed in large quanties.  The whole idea of a light 
beer, so you can drink more, is American.  Your average bar or resturaunt 
will offer various Busch/Bud/Coors swill, Rolling Rock and, if you're lucky,
Sam Adams and Guiness... in a bottle.

At OSCON we will endevour to correct America's poor image with regard to ales.


[1] http://www.newbelgium.com/
[2] http://www.rogue.com/
[3] http://www.arrogantbastard.com/

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