Re: Reason #1781 to hate Mosa^H^H^H^HNets^H^H^H^HMozil^H^H^H^H^HFirefox.

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From: A. Pagaltzis
Subject: Re: Reason #1781 to hate Mosa^H^H^H^HNets^H^H^H^HMozil^H^H^H^H^HFirefox.
Date: 19:41 on 14 Mar 2006
* David Cantrell <david@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> [2006-03-14 11:50]:
>On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:07:17PM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
>> * David Cantrell <david@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> [2006-03-13 12:55]:
>> > Creating a new window under any other circumstance is WRONG.
>> That is a fine theory, except so many webapps would cease to
>> work (yes, they're hateful; no, that doesn't mean Firefox can
>> ignore them) that the popup blocking setting would have to be
>> considered hateful ANYWAY. Maybe extra-strong popup blocking
>> should be a hidden pref.
>
>None that I can think of.  Well, none that I want to work
>anyway, cos the only ones I can think of are advertising shite.
>Really, I can't think of a single site I've ever used where I
>would want popups to appear other than in the circumstances I
>specified.

I use several sites where the [Preview] button on a posting form
pops up a window; also an online banking site where clicking a
link to recall presets for a transaction brings up a popup for
selecting a preset. Two airlines I've booked flights with use
popups -- one for date selection, one for half the booking
process.

>I suppose you're right, Firefox can't ignore them.

That's the problem. I don't like the use of popups on any of
these sites either, but I need to use them, and browser makers
don't really have the option to not support these sites. Users
will just use another browser that they don't have to fight as
much (even if it means they are flooded with junk otherwise). So
the popup blocking has to be strong enough to prevent the crap as
much as possible but not so much that it would prevent all
"legitimate" popups as well -- same situation as spam filters.
For users who accept the inconvenience, a draconian blocker would
be good to be included, but it can't be the default.

It's all one big crapola.

>It should still block them though, but it already shows a little
>thingy at the top of the window to tell me that it blocked a
>popup, so it needs to add something there to "allow popups on
>this page/site" - in other words, block by default, make
>whitelisting really easy.

Yeah, it does that already.

>It would also be nice if popup windows had a thingy saying "this
>is a popup from your whitelist, click here to delete that
>whitelist entry".

That it doesn’t, to my knowledge.

Regards,
-- 
Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/>;
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