Re: Re: Start -> Shut Down -> Log Out

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From: Foofy
Subject: Re: Re: Start -> Shut Down -> Log Out
Date: 21:44 on 12 Jul 2006
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:50:34 -0400, Peter da Silva <peter@xxxxxxx.xxx>  =

wrote:

> tables for layout in inappropriate ways, and CSS doesn't seem to have =
a  =

> way to specify grid layout in the CSS file...

But that's what you missed.  You can specify table layout for any  =

elements, but since IE doesn't support these properties it doesn't make =
 =

sense to use them.

> instead people come up with the
> most insane workarounds to do simple stuff like three-column layout an=
d

Agreed.  I have so much web development hate I could go on for years.  I=
  =

hate stupid hacks, pages unreadable without CSS, layouts that break in  =

anything but Firefox and IE, "Web 2.0," replacing a bunch of unsemantic =
 =

code and tables with equally unsemantic (but valid) divs and spans.

Basically we went from this:
     <b>Hello there!</b>

To this:
     <span class=3D'boldtext'>Hello there!</b>

And what the hell was wrong with b in the first place?  We went from sev=
en  =

keystrokes to open and close b to 17 keystrokes for strong!  Any English=
  =

handbook will tell you that bold already means emphasis.

There's stuff above here

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