Re: Invalid Operating System

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From: Peter da Silva
Subject: Re: Invalid Operating System
Date: 19:41 on 17 Dec 2006
On Dec 17, 2006, at 1:29 PM, demerphq wrote:
> Its about brevity. Plain and simple. I don't want to write a bunch of
> useless text when I do something as common as perform a pattern match.

That's why people use reflective languages like Forth and Lisp and 
Smalltalk, so when you do a lot of anything you can do it briefly and 
cleanly and efficiently. Perl seems to have borrowed that idea, but 
instead of being reflective it has a particular set of special cases, 
like regular expressions, treated magically... there's no general 
mechanism you can use to make any other mathematical or other special 
purpose syntax the same kind of "peer".

> Hmm, I didn't realize that either allowed their syntax to be extended
> to support perl style pattern operators or quoting.

Forth and Lisp can be extended indefinitely. For example: when I was 
implementing a screen editor in Forth I made key-binding a first-class 
language element because I was doing it so frequently. These kinds of 
macros (in Lisp) or immediate words (in Forth) tend to be used 
sparingly, when needed.

There's stuff above here

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