Re: Mail.app

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From: Luke Kanies
Subject: Re: Mail.app
Date: 22:39 on 29 Jul 2005
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Aaron Crane wrote:

> Not really -- 140MB for a package containing an editor with most of its
> source code, plus a large number of add-on packages, some of which are
> large anyway, and all of which also include source.  (Or at least, the
> Emacs I've got on my own Mac looks like that.)  So, yes, it's hateful
> that installing Emacs needs 140MB, but it's the packager's fault, not
> the application's.  For comparison, the minimal Emacs 21 packages on
> Debian Sarge for i386 have a combined installed-size of 6242KB, which
> does sound much more reasonable.

I just thought it was funny that he was complaining about something so
far down the list of sizes.  And I guess I just can't help but take jabs
at emacs.

> BTW, on my Sarge laptop, when I compare Vim 6.3 and GNU Emacs 21.4.1, I
> find the following:
>
>   Command                       VSZ    RSS    Estimated time to start
>   gvim -i NONE -u NONE -U NONE  20000  11156  1500ms
>   emacs21 -q --no-site-file     13040   8080   800ms

Heh, of course the gnome-settings-applet is 16m resident...

I only use vim, not gvim, but they're the same binary so I expect they
take the same amount of memory or something like.  I'm sure if you
combine rxvt + vim, it's the same amount of memory.

I'm no (g)vi(m) defender; I'm just more of an emacs pointer-and-laugher.

> Of course, this is somewhat off-topic, as I can't currently muster up
> much hate at all for either editor.  Doubtless that will change soon
> enough...

Whereas my "I love to hate Emacs" post was entirely on-topic. :)

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