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* On 2005.10.13, in <Pine.OSX.4.58.0510131748070.17927@xxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>, * "Luke Kanies" <luke@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > care the most about, which largely amount to having a minimalist > > > syntax without being so minimalist that it makes me feel like I'm > > > actually writing in binary (LISP), along with allowing insane > > > amounts of introspection (this > > > > Ook. Ook? > > I think I lost something in the translation here... http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/ook.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ook! Ook! is isomorphic to Brainfuck (which is, itself, just P'' plus I/O operators), but is held to be interesting for (a) using fewer (3 vs. 8) syntactic elements and (b) looking like a transcript of a directors' meeting of my precious organization, and is anyone hiring in the Chicago area? However, because Ook!'s "syntactic elements" must occur in pairs, they're not really syntactic elements, are they? They're spellings, so (a) is a red herring -- three pairs is really 2^3 = 8 semantic tokens, just like Brainfuck, only it takes me longer to write. To fill the obHate prerequisite. I mean, Ook! is certainly more pronounceable than Brainfuck, but how often do you read your code aloud over the telephone, and wouldn't that be like picking pecks of Peter Piper's peppers anyway? So "Ook. Ook?" is the operator for "can we please move on?" Which isn't meant for you specifically, Luke, it's just that you're the one who said "minimalist" and gave me the excuse. I picked it over Brainfuck because if "Ook. Ook?" is going to throw someone, ">" certainly doesn't carry enough context to mean anything. ... I got my LISA conference plea/brochure today. Now that I've covered the *software* hate quotient, are you someone I can ask to PLEASE MAKE THEM STOP HOLDING IT AT THE TOWN & COUNTRY? Fashion Valley sounds like a television program for thirteen-year-olds. I'll give you that the overwhelming (no, really) sense of apocalypse and brimstone last time was rather exciting, up until I had to occupy that godawful conference center or sit in my corner room with virtually no cellular reception staring at the horrid child in the picture frame, just like the horrid child in every third room's picture frame, eking bandwidth by the bps. It's lucky I had dispensation to rent a car, or (with their room service) I'd never have found it possible to drown my troubles in a dusty bottle of Graham's 20. Can I bear to attend again? It probably depends on the weather, frankly, so bravo! to whomever picked San Diego in December, but a double dose of derision for not telling the T&C to take a hike. -- -D. dgc@xxxxxxxx.xxx NSIT University of ChicagoThere's stuff above here
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