Re: helping the user is not an error

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From: jrodman
Subject: Re: helping the user is not an error
Date: 18:19 on 23 May 2006
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 06:37:15PM +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
> On Tue, 23 May 2006 18:22:35 +0200, "A. Pagaltzis" <pagaltzis@xxx.xx> wrote:
> 
> > * Yoz Grahame <yoz@xxx.xxx> [2006-05-23 14:10]:
> > > Incidentally, if you long for a Windows Media Player with the old v6
> > > interface but with modern features, I highly recommend Media Player
> > > Classic:
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/
> > > ... which is worth keeping around even if you have VLC as it's
> > > slightly less hateful about certain things, such as ACTUALLY WORKING
> > > OUT WHERE MY BLOODY DVD DRIVE IS.
> > 
> > I also hear this one is pretty popular among people who only need
> > an audio player: http://www.foobar2000.org/
> > 
> > Pity it's Windows only, the UI looks so minimal I'd love to give
> > it a shot.
> 
> Beep Media Player is too sophisticated already?
> http://freshmeat.net/projects/beep-player/
> Easy to use without skins, and it is a lot more reliable than xmms

I could have sworn that the beep project was abandoned by the
developers.  Apparently, it is an update of xmms which has huge layers
of code duplication (I've checked, it's true, hate) and was generally
unmanagable.  Beep was just a port of xmms to gtk2.x AFAIK, so should be
just about as hateful overall.

I suppose BMPX is a restart of the project?  I'd know better, but the
bmpx page has this for content:

 Fatal error: Call to undefined method Sanitizer::escapeid() in
 /data/www/bmpx/bmpx/includes/Parser.php on line 3153

Woohoo, I have a lot of confidence in this software.  Why do people
insist on generating front pages to sites dynamically with php
tinkertoys? HATE.

I'm in semiregular contact with one of the developers working on
Audacious, _yet another_ branch of xmms.  This one seems to be
pie-in-the-sky second system syndrome.  "We will rewrite all the
interfaces and protocols to be better".  So far it mostly seems to be
xmms with all the plugins you never wanted included by default, so the
compile will take over 8 hours.  

At least the people building what they call "xmms 2" are abandoning the
craptacular interface by default that is designed around a screen
resolution from the mid-1990s, doesn't respect window placement, etc.
etc.  Too bad it seems to be in perpetual alpha.

-josh
There's stuff above here

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