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On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 10:51:01AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: >So, what's missing? More precisely - what's stopping you from dumping >mailman or ezmlm or whatever? >> * Web based administration. >I may try and write this tomorrow. * Email-based administration. I don't want to give shell access to everybody who's a listmaster on my server, and many of them have cookies permanently turned off if they have web browsers at all. * A storage system which creates one file per list (possibly in addition to other things). Forwhy? To avoid having to edit aliases ever again. Contrast what you can do with smartlist+exim: list_director: driver = smartuser suffix = -request suffix_optional local_parts = !.bin:!.etc require_files = /var/list/${local_part}/rc.init transport = list_transport user = list group = list * Dunno how good the bounce handling is. How good is it? >The one thing I've been thinking of is sending out to users. At the >moment the Send plugin loops though all the users and send a mail out to >each one. The thing is - for us to do things like per-user NoMail and >PGP and ReplyTo or whatever instead of just looping through plugins >before we get to Send we're going to need to do it when we loop through >all the users as well. > >The big question - do we codify this as part of the design or leave it >as a plugin implementation detail? I strongly suggest that you have at least the option of sending the same message to multiple envelope recipients, probably sorted by domain. VERP is all very well, but the load on bandwidth is excessive on a large mailing list. My own project - which never got off the ground, which is why I'm here - was to use VERP for a configurable percentage of addressees, with the specific recipients changed over time, so that eventually you'd get a VERPed bounce message from an address that was causing problems, but you didn't have to make every single message to every single subscribe a separate deal. Roger
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