Re: Sending mail

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From: Daniel Pittman
Subject: Re: Sending mail
Date: 00:48 on 25 Apr 2005
On 25 Apr 2005, Chris Devers wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Zack Weinberg wrote:
>
>> Programs that *don't* send mail with /usr/lib/sendmail (yeah, yeah, 
>> these days /usr/sbin/sendmail) are hateful. 
>
> Including, for example, everything that sends mail on Windows?

Oh, yes.  I really hate that.  If Windows came with a single standard
interface to sending email, like sendmail(1), life would be so much
better, because...

> Or everything on a platform (e.g. OSX) where the program at that 
> location, which may or not be Sendmail-TM-brand-sendmail, is by default
> configured not to deliver, because mismanaged mail proxies are evil?

...you could chose to implement this.  Alternately, you could do the
typical Microsoft solution of reacting to a virus making five hundred
queries of the address book by asking "Do you want to allow this" five
hundred times, in a row, with no way to avoid answering each one.[1]

> And how about thosee non-Sendmail-TM-brand-sendmails, e.g. the ones set
> up by Postfix et al. Does the Hate cover those as well?

In case you didn't notice, Postfix and almost all the other non-sendmail
brand sendmail systems provide sendmail(1) in the right location.

This is because Unix does have a standard way of sending mail.  The
proliferation of writing sendmail(1) yourself, incorporate in your code,
but badly is something I lay at the feet of Windows.

Thanks of a system where that was the *best* way to achieve the result,
you bastards.

    Daniel

Footnotes: 
[1]  Well, actually, my clients of the time usually powered off the
     machine, since the soft power button still worked.

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